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| 8 Tips for Blogging Old School; Building a Community of Links |
| Written by Gabriella Sannino | |
| Tuesday, 01 March 2011 13:59 | |
| So, the premise is, you’re new to the blogging scene and you want to be one of the popular people. You want to say, “Yeah, I write this blog” and have people say, “Oh, yeah, I really liked your article on…” So how do you get to that point? By building a community of links, old school style.
A whole, whopping 10 – 20 years ago, life was easy. Bloggers grabbed their personal online journals; they started kicking out content and anybody could find them. Good luck being a blogging wallflower in “the good old days” – Big Daddy Google wanted to make sure you didn’t miss out. These days, Google’s too busy to make sure you aren’t left out of the online party. Why? A couple of reasons:
Now? You have to do it all yourself. You have to get out there and be seen. You have to put your best foot forward… and hope you don’t fall flat on your face. In short, you have to build a community of people, sites and links around your blog - like they did way back when site ring communities were going strong. Only now, it’s a lot harder. Good bloggers of today and yesteryear do have one thing in common: the willingness to share the link love and promote content written by others. Building a community of respect, knowledge and quality links doesn’t happen overnight, as you’ll see once you start following people you respect in your industry. However, by going old school, you be able to gain exposure and a fantastic community of links. More articles by this author |
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What started out as an interesting and possibly useful article turned into yet another cheap link spam trick right there.
I stopped reading at this point.
I have no problem with linking out to sites that provide additional information or understanding to readers, and I see nothing wrong with dropping a link if appropriate, after all thats the way Google is built.
You CAN'T be talking to me, then.
You don’t know me, so I don’t expect you to know “cheap link spam” isn’t something I would suggest or even write about. I respect opinions on any topic, so I did want to make sure I understood your comment before I responded.
From what I visually see as a poor comment (the -5 comment rating), I can only assume there was no misunderstandin g.
As a good guest blogger, I’m compelled to clarify in the light of your comment that you didn’t bother to read the rest of the article.
What you may consider spam is duly noted, but, IMHO, taking advantage of an opportunity to share your content isn’t wrong. I respect great content too much to drop – or suggest dropping – spam on anyone’s site. The point of the article is all about old school blogging… clean, no malice or bad intent, inventive, creative ways to push your content… These are all things we learn, share and do together; there’s nothing shady or spammy about it. It’s sharing information – period.
Maybe you’re just jaded; maybe you think everyone is spitting out link bait and every comment with a link in it is spam. Maybe everyone is out to give bad information. Personally, I don’t think commenting is spam (even if a link is included) if it’s relevant – but then again, it’s all about your values. I may not know everything; I may not have the complete key to success – but the key to failure is trying to please everybody… Thanks for commenting.
We can learn how to dislike each other or we can learn how to be critical of ideas. I pursue the latter philosophy, however imperfectly so.
People who don't know to think critically will grade any challenging comment lowly -- I pay no attention to the popularity contest buttons.
If you want to know WHY your suggestion is spam (and it most definitely is), think about what you would say on those blogs if you deliberately did NOT include a link.
The link should be left so people know who you are -- not because it's a "great link building idea". It never was and never will be.
Abusing other people's Websites for the sake of links is bad marketing.
Now - I read your comments here and I read your latest article... While I don't protest your opinion, I do think you could have made your point without using words like "cockroach, cheap, parasitical links " and a few other choice descriptions. That's neither here nor there, though - it's simply a difference of opinion in the difference between being critical and being rude.
This article is NOT about SEO. This article is about defining how linking should and has worked in the past. Not linking for SEO, but linking as in "building a community" linking. People have become so concerned with SEO, how it works, quality links for ranking and so on... they've forgotten how links USED to work. You know, back before SEO was THE consideration.
So, Michael - are you trying to tell me that never, not once in your life, have you commented on an article and left a link? Not because you wanted a link back to your site, but because that link was actually RELEVANT (as mentioned in the paragraph you so neatly dismissed in your initial comment)? You've never commented on a blog - ever - and said, "I have to disagree with you, and here's why"? Not once? Funny I noticed you dropped your Twitter link on your comment. Why not just have a twitter follow button… just saying.
You see, I don't think links are automatically spam. I think links are an excellent way to keep the conversation going. Not everybody allows a book in the comments. What if what you have to say - both relevant and helpful, useful, etc - is longer than three or four paragraphs? What if you genuinely want to share information? Is it automatically spam because you chose to share the link in a comment rather than waiting for someone to search your name and find your blog?
In conclusion, because this is turning into a book itself.... Not once in this entire article did I say "spam people". Not once did I say "go around and drop comments and links everywhere." What I said was "comment if the article inspires you to do so", which MANY shy people have a hard time doing. What I said was "if you have a related article, share it in the comments". In other words, if it continues the conversation - if it's relevant, if it's helpful If, somewhere in there, you still see that as spam, so be it. We'll simply have to agree to disagree, and I'll make sure not to leave any links in your comments.
U have Usurped my crown as the "King of Condescencion"
You knew that, right?
Sorry, who? I was unaware that I or any other Barry had commented on this post prior to now. ;)
As a linkbuilding exercise it's pretty pointless, but that was never Gabs point. Her post is about building a blog community, about being part of the conversation and getting your name and your writing out there. And in that context this tactic still works, as part of a larger effort as Gabs describes.
I think Michael may have misinterpreted this as a linkbuilding post - understandable as this is an SEO blog after all - but that's not the core message I got from Gabrielle's article.
First off, I really don't think this article comes off as a call to comment spam. To me it was about forming relationships that may blossom into a (nepotistic) relationship for link acquisition. That's networking and part of 'the game' we play in marketing. If for links or other forms of promotion.
@Michael - I shall increase the word count limits sir, hadn't run into the prob before.
As for the (perception of) article, I am not going to call what Gabs wrote 'black hat' or a shill for people to start comment spamming. If anything, I have also used it (dropping a link in my comment) exactly as Barry noted; because I've written a related piece and it's just easier to do than writing a book in the comments (besides, most blog comments are nofollow, it's not much of a link building tactic now is it?). I am NOT doing that for links, it is my way of adding to a conversation.
Gabs said "when you are inspired to do so". That's exactly how I comment and IF I dropped a link, it is for the reason mentioned above. I don't read her statement as "Go leave comments and drop a link in them" on a mass scale or anything. I read it as; A. If moved, leave a comment and B. if you have related reading leave a link. Shit, if it was about comment spamming, then why didn't she mention to check if the links are followed and to ALWAYS leave a link in the comment? I believe she's talking about adding to the conversation.
@Mel - pretty sure Michael meant that as a figure of speech. I doubt he'd be talking if he hadn't. It's the perception of Gabs statements I believe may be the problem here.
@Barry - I agree, comment links (spamming) isns't a viable approach. I also leave links in comments, but only because it adds to the conversation.... and I am lazy too. No, wait, I mean 'pressed for time' - yes that's it.
@Terry - down boy... ohmmm ohmmm...
@Gabs - Introductions first; Gabs meet Michael, Michael, meet Gabs. Michael is like many of the great folks we have in the Dojo, very passionate about search. I really think there is a bit of a mis-communication here as far as what was meant in the post. He doesn't know you as well as I or he'd know you're not a believer in comment spamming. Or that I'd allow a post on here about it. There have been times over the years Michael has taken issue with things I've written, we hash it out and move on. I'd encourage you to do the same, because he is a voice I welcome in the space.
Methinks we need to step back, re-read the post and ensure we're talking oranges-to-oranges here. Maybe a bit of a follow up? Maybe some annotations on this one? Not sure. Either way as long as it's (the comments here) constructive and civil, I shall grab some pop corn and allow it to continue.
A. Writers need a thick skin. B. We're allowed to disagree.
:)
The point of this article was specifically about blogging, communicating and linking as a way to build a community, and remains so. However, I’m going to expound on my original post to clarify a little more. Here it is:
This article is not about link building for SEO; in fact, this article isn’t about SEO at all. You see, years of experience have shown me that SEO isn’t the only reason to put a link somewhere. It’s not the end all and be all of a marketing campaign.
In other words, not everything revolves around optimization. You can make a comment on a blog, add a link, and not even think about ranking, optimization or whether it might raise their IBL profile (hint: Yo – SE geeks, regular people do this all the time).
The idea is to offer bloggers advice, based on my experience, on creating a community within their niche:
• YES, it’s okay to link to other people in your articles.
• YES, it’s okay to give your readers links to other content not on your site.
• YES, it’s okay to talk about other people if they say something that interested you.
• YES, it’s okay to share your own material with other people on another blog.
• YES, it’s okay to communicate.
“Share and share alike,” we say. “Occasionally forget about Google and think about the community you’re building,” we urge. “Engage, communicate, and enjoy the unique opportunity the Digital Age has to share information, meet new people and build a community like no other time before it.” Thanks for your input.
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