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| Google Reconsideration Request Replies; understanding the evolution |
| Written by David Harry | |
| Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:58 | |
| Has anyone else noticed that there seems to be some changes to the replies one receives when filing a reconsideration request with Google? I have. Reconsiideration requests are all the rage with the fashionable SEOs in 2012. Everybody's doing it. We hear about them at every turn. But there really doesn't seem to be much out there on actual replies. I guess folks are shy huh? We hear a lot about the context of the initial WMT messages, but very little about actual replies after the recon is filed. Today we're going look at some we collected to get a sense of what's happening. Manual v AlgorithmicThe first thing we should note is that reconsideration requests are filed when you get notifications from Google in Webmaster Tools, the most common being the This is not the same as a loss of rankings due to algorithmic changes at Google, such as the infamous Panda/Penguin updates. It is important to understand the differences between a (manual) penalty and an aglo change. One does not file a reconsideration request for algorithmic changes, that is only for 'manual' penalties. Not sure which is which? Watching the known dates (for Panda/Penguin) is a great place to start.
The backgroundThis particular journey began a few weeks back when one of my warrior brethren passed a recent reply someone they knew had received from Google. It contained some terminology I hadn't seen before as well as some actual examples of 'inorganic links' pointing to the site in question. That got me thinking that there wasn't really a source to monitor potential changes and/or responses. As such I started reaching out to folks on social channels and my own networks. Google states that these activities are 'manual', what we have seen is that the replies are are indeed automated/templated, only some details of each changes. Many of the examples we had were substantially the same text.
Past examples of Google repliesTo get some context on what we believe is a change in the way Google is responding, let's look at some of the ones prior to May 2012.
In this one we're still seeing the mentions of 'artificial or unnatural links' and the rest of it is fairly non-descriptive. At this point they also tell you to provide details on links you are “ unable to control or remove”. This later seems to change into “regardless of who created the links”. Ok, now for what seems to be part II in the evolution;
This was the first time, that I can tell, that we've seen not only the use of 'inorganic links' (in addition to 'unnatural') and the appearance of actual URLs to links that may have been an issue. It also contains the 'some or all pages' reference. Does that mean there is an element of on-site and off-site issues? It's hard to say. As with some of the others, directories were highlighted. Does that mean they are the root of the issue? No. I have also seen a variety of other issues from WordPress template (footer) links and review blogs that are wide in relevance and low on trust. More recent replies more detailed?More recently we started seeing responses that look like this;
That one is particularly as it mentions 'inorganic' links a few times and actually gives examples of 5 links (4 of them being from directories). Again, it should be noted that directories again were given as examples but that doesn't make them the only issue. That being said, we did see enough mentions of them to make it an area I'd be looking at (as an SEO). Just don't be myopic on what 'inorganic links' may mean. And this, “we have taken action to reduce the trust of inorganic links to your site” ? Why not just devalue them, instead of penalizing? More on that in a bit. Follow up to the initial requestFrom these, we start to see some formats that aren't as template driven as the first responses tend to be;
Or
On-site Web Spam?The world of links isn't the only examples we've come across. In the following example it seems there might be some on-site issues at play;
It doesn't really give information as to what exactly the problem may be, “some or all of your pages” does seem to intimate that. In talking with some other folks (I didn't get a copy of actual dialogue) I've also heard about
Point being, that there are some things happening that are on site, not just links. The on-site ones I've seen are certainly in the minority, but that might just be the data I had access to. If anyone has had a dialogue with Google about on-site elements, please do let me know. Nothing to see hereNext up we also have some examples of websites that were told there weren't any manual actions taken against the site. In these cases it is most likely that it was a related to an algorithmic change such as Panda/Penguin or another update.
I haven't decided if this is a good thing, or a bad thing. If you get one of these, and have lost significant traffic, it is more likely you've been hit with something algorithmic such as Panda, Penguin or some unnamed beast. Dealing with Google PenaltiesOf course the million dollar question is; what am I supposed to do now? For the most part people have been running about trying to get links removed and inevitably a few companies have cropped up to help you with your efforts. While we'll leave examples of what to remove for next time, by and large I'd be looking at the quality and relevance of the site where the link resides. Of course link un-building can be a huge issue and the stated attitude of “Regardless of who created the links” leaves the door open for potential 'negative SEO' for websites that have weaker, less diverse profiles. NOTE; takes time to get links 'removed' from the index depending on crawling of site where they are. Just because you get the link removed, doesn't mean Google doesn't still 'see' it. If you're getting a manual penalty for on-site issues, that kinda be a bit more of an issue. We didn't see a lot of actual examples to webmasters. If you're doing suspect on-site SEO, then you likely already know. If it's something that's happened without your knowledge (CSS gone mad, CMS features) it may not be so easy. Ultimately I don't believe you should just 'sit tight' and do nothing. If you've lost rankings and have established it wasn't Panda/Penguin (looking at roll out dates helps here) then a reconsideration request is likely the way to go. Where is this all headed?To my thinking this line is huge, “ we have taken action to reduce the trust of inorganic links to your site”. If Google can and has removed the value from the suspect links, why not just do that and call it a day? Inform the webmaster of the types of links which aren't passing value, instead of penalizing them. This would surely end a given link building tactic in short order without the risk of 'negative' SEO. At some point one would have to believe that Google might want to just give webmasters the option to discount links. If it's negative SEO or just some poor website owner who trusted an SEO that strayed to close to the edge, making people jump through hoops and expend resources, just doesn't seem like the right answer. Especially for past indescretions on tactics that Google didn't seem to mind (even I have done WordPress themes in the past, for example). It's like changing the speed limit on the street in front of my house and then giving me a speeding ticket for last year when I was driving the old limit. I had written about that back in April and since that time Google has intimated on a few levels that this may indeed be something they implement at some point. Sadly, it won't be soon enough for many of the websites already caught in the grips. If you have received a reply to a Google reconsideration request and are willing to share (non-disclosure assured) please do get in touch. The more we can learn the better. Until next time, play safe. More articles by this author | |
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I am also anticipating an "ignore link" feature.
Your site just got smacked with an algorithm update most likely then and there's not much you can do but start over or remove junk links and obtain them naturally over time.
I think we're seeing an evolution in the conversation between search engine and Webmaster because the process of compensating for cheap links is becoming too expensive for the search engines.
They are feeling the pain and they are now sharing the pain. We can argue about whether they should put so much trust in links but as long as Webmasters continue to trust links to help with their search referral business then the arguments become moot.
What exactly do you mean by that? I have affiliate links on one of my sites. I put each affiliate link into bitly so that the links aren't so long. I then nofollow those bitly links which redirect to affiliate links which redirect to the advertiser.
Is this not advisable? Could it bring on some kind of penalty? Did you mean something else by affiliate link redirect script?
I thought I saw a video of Matt Cutts saying that all manual penalties are given expiration dates, but that they vary in length.
Any thoughts on this?
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES01L4xjSXE
Manual penalties do not expire. You need to make the fixes to your site, submit a reconsideration request and have a google employee re-evaluate your site and lift the penalty.
If you did not get a letter from google, the penalty is algorithmic. After you make changes to your site, the crawler will pick up on this and adjust your rankings accordingly.
In the video he says that the algorithmic slaps do expire based on severity of the manipulation.
In the video he says "on the manual side", and then says that they do expire based on the severity. So it sounds like manual penalties do expire, right?
Because they are making millions by penalizing great sites who don't pay them for ads. Now these sites which used to conduct business through natural search results are forced to pay or go bust. There is absolutely no other logical reason for it. Although there very may well be a good deal of unfriendly sites which were ranking well previously and shouldn't have been, there were an equal amount of high quality sites which should logically appear in the results regardless of what Google thinks of the links pointing to them. Instead of showing these sites they would rather show junk or just less worthy sites so that they can earn more revenue. The proof is in the earnings since these penalties started being issued. Do you really think wall street would allow them to act ethically when they have made so much money by doing the opposite?
"We've reviewed your site and we believe that some or all of your pages still violate our quality guidelines.
In order to preserve the quality of our search engine, pages from http://www.xxxx.xx may not appear or may not rank as highly in Google's search results, or may otherwise be considered to be less trustworthy than sites which follow the quality guidelines.
If you wish to be reconsidered again, please correct or remove all pages that are outside our quality guidelines. When such changes have been made, please visit https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/reconsideration ?hl=en and resubmit your site for reconsideration .
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